On this new episode of Unscripted, Amy Somerville welcomes power couple and serial entrepreneurs Kass and Mike Lazerow. They are the minds behind Golf.com and Buddy Media, which was sold to Salesforce for a staggering $745 million.

From building incredibly lucrative companies to navigating marriage and raising three kids along the way, Kass and Mike bring radical honesty, hard-earned wisdom, and a whole lot of humor to the conversation. They unpack the dirty work behind achievement and why resilience is rooted in love, not grit. They also explore what defines real victory, why generosity matters more than ever, and how to protect your time and energy when everything demands your attention.

Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or someone trying to stay sane while chasing your dream, this episode is a must-listen. It’s not just about winning. It’s about how you shovel through the mess and stay human in the process.

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