Mark Manson on the Subtle Art of Not Giving an “Eff”

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In a hyper-connected world measured in likes and retweets, Mark Manson swims upstream. The author and blogger writes “self-help for people who hate self-help.” In this brutally honest interview with SUCCESS Editor-in-Chief Josh Ellis, Manson explains why we need to stop trying to be happy all of the time. Instead embrace failure, rejection and insecurities, because there is no such thing as life without struggle or suffering.

This interview appears on the SUCCESS Talks Collection, available in the April 2017 edition of SUCCESS magazine.


  • Happiness is such an elusive thing. What are we really looking for? And is it really better than what we have?
  • There isn’t a life without struggle. Manson says that it’s the negative experiences that forge us to be able to withstand all the bad while we search for the good.
  • We, as humans, are very good at rationalizing away the negative aspects of our lives. It’s time to get truly, brutally honest with ourselves—listen in to learn how.

Favorite quote from this episode:

“One thing that I think most people don’t notice is that if you’re sitting around telling yourself, I want to be happier, there’s a kind of subconscious message that you’re also telling yourself at the same time, which is, what I have is not enough.”

—Mark Manson

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Josh Ellis is the former editor in chief for SUCCESS magazine. Before joining SUCCESS in 2012, he was an accomplished digital and print sportswriter, working for the Dallas Cowboys Star magazine, the team’s gameday program, and Originally from Longview, Texas, he began writing for his hometown newspaper at 16.

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