Bishop T.D. Jakes on Going Against the Odds

This episode is sponsored by altMBA.

Exposed to entrepreneurship as a child, Bishop T.D. Jakes didn’t know he wanted to be a preacher, but he always knew he would forge his own path. Now the founder of the Potter’s House church in Dallas, “America’s Best Preacher” is transforming the lives of thousands across the globe. In this interview with SUCCESS Editor-in-Chief Josh Ellis, Jakes touches on self-belief through difficult times, effectiveness and raising the standards of a “good life.”

This interview appears on the SUCCESS Talks Collection, available in the July 2017 edition of SUCCESS magazine.

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  • Our childhood is a large shaper of our future. Learn how Jakes, who watched his parents work day and night to support him, was inspired to push for more.
  • Don’t become an entrepreneur for the income, Jakes says. Most businesses don’t turn a profit for several years, but it’s more than that. Learn why passion is a much larger indicator of success.
  • Believing in yourself is never easy. Jakes had to push past people who doubted his ability to succeed. Hear his techniques for taking charge of your future and pushing past those who expect less of you.

Favorite quote from this episode:

“We get messed up when we think of destiny in terms of destination. I have learned over the years that if you fall in love with the journey, the destination is inevitable. Fall in love with not being there, the process, the problems, the staircase, not the landing.”

—Bishop T.D. Jakes

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Josh Ellis is the former editor in chief for SUCCESS magazine. Before joining SUCCESS in 2012, he was an accomplished digital and print sportswriter, working for the Dallas Cowboys Star magazine, the team’s gameday program, and Originally from Longview, Texas, he began writing for his hometown newspaper at 16.

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